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August 29, 2005
Listmania: The Revenge
by Daniel Erenberg

So every so often I used to do these little top 5 lists. I was really into them. It started as a game I used to play with my friends. Lists are fun. So I have a few more now. If you guys want me to do it again sometime soon, e-mail me some list topics. But for now this is what I came up with. As always, you can comment on the bulletin board below.


Top 5 DVD Commentaries (Buffy)
5. "Lies My Parents Told Me", by David Fury, Drew Goddard, D.B. Woodside and James Marsters
4. "Welcome To The Hellmouth/The Harvest", by Joss Whedon
3. "Dirty Girls", by Drew Goddard and Nicholas Brendon
2. "Conversations With Dead People", by Jane Espenson, Nick Marck, Drew Goddard, Danny Strong, and Adam Busch
1. "Wild At Heart", by Joss Whedon, Marti Noxon, and Seth Green


Top 5 DVD Commentaries (Angel)
5. "Home", by Tim Minear
4. "City Of", by Joss Whedon and David Greenwalt
3. "Spin The Bottle", by Joss Whedon and Alexis Denisof
2. "Underneath", by Elizabeth Craft, Sarah Fain, and Adam Baldwin
1. "A Hole In The World", by Joss Whedon, Alexis Denisof, and Amy Acker

Special Jossverse Mention to "Objects In Space", by Joss Whedon (from Firefly)


Top 5 Dream Sequences (Buffy)
5. We Are As Gods ("Storyteller")
4. The Coma Dream of "The Weight Of The World"
3. Faith and Buffy making the bed in "Graduation Day Part Two"
2. The start of "Surprise"
1. The Whole of "Restless"


Top 5 Season-Starting Scenes (All Joss Shows)
5. A Bad Dream (season four of Angel)
4. "Big Boy" (season three of Buffy)
3. A different take on an old sequence (season five of Angel)
2. "Miss me?" (season two of Buffy)
1. The War in "Serenity" (season one of Firefly)


Top 5 Season-Ending Scenes (All Joss Shows)
5. The Very End (season seven of Buffy)
4. Conner and his family (season four of Angel)
3. Walk Away after taking a moment (season three of Buffy)
2. Full Of Grace (season two of Buffy)
1. Getting To Work (season five of Angel)


Top 5 DVD Cases
5. Firefly: The Complete Series
4. Buffy: Season One
3. Buffy: Season Four
2. Angel: Season Four
1. Buffy: Season Two

Special Mention To Tim Minear's beautiful Wonderfalls set


Top 5 "Good Guys Gone Evil" Moments (Both Shows)
5. Faith Doesn't Care ("Consequences")
4. Angel Lights A Fire ("Redefinition")
3. Angel Laughs ("Awakening")
2. Willow's Hair Turns Black ("Seeing Red")
1. Angel and Buffy: The Morning After ("Innocence")


Top 5 Episodes Involving Parents (Both Shows)
5. "Lies My Parents Told Me"
4. "The Girl In Question"
3. "Ted"
2. "Lineage"
1. "The Body"


Top 5 Dance Sequence (All Joss Shows)
5. Angel in "She"
4. "I'll Never Tell" ("Once More With Feeling")
3. Mal and Inara's Ball ("Shindig")
2. Last Dance ("The Prom")
1. "Don't you wish I would?" ("When She Was Bad")


Top 5 Birthday Parties (All Shows)
5. Giles Left Out ("Doomed")
4. The Cruciamentum ("Helpless")
3. An Out-of-Body Experience ("Birthday")
2. The Long Party ("Older and Far Away")
1. A Surprise Party ("Surprise")


Top 5 Religious Figures (All Shows)
5. Osirus (Buffy)
4. Glory (Buffy)
3. Jasmine (Angel)
2. Caleb (Buffy)
1. Shepherd Book (Firefly)


Top 5 Jossverse-Related Shows (Not including Buffy, Angel, and Firefly)
5. Point Pleasant (created by Marti Noxon; featuring writers Jane Espenson and Ben Edlund)
4. Miracles (created by David Greenwalt)
3. Wonderfalls (co-created by Tim Minear)
2. Gilmore Girls (Featuring writers Jane Espenson and Rebecca Rand Kirshner)
1. Lost (featuring writers David Fury and Drew Goddard)


Top 5 Character Deaths (Buffy)
5. Spike ("Chosen")
4. Anya ("Chosen")
3. Buffy ("The Gift")
2. Tara ("Seeing Red")
1. Jenny ("Passion")

Top 5 Character Deaths (Angel)
5. Darla ("Lullaby")
4. Doyle ("Hero")
3. Cordelia ("You're Welcome")
2. Wesley ("Not Fade Away")
1. Fred ("A Hole In The World")


Top 5 Instances Of Foreshadowing
5. "A few plagues and a time of darkness" (Angel: "To Shanshu In LA")
4. Tara sabotages a spell ("Goodbye Iowa")
3. "Kinda Gay" ("Doppelgangland")
2. "Little Miss Muffet counting down from 7-3-0" ("Graduation Day Part Two")
1. Most of "Restless"


Top 5 Comics (Joss-Related)
5. Tales Of The Slayers
4. Buffy: Reunion
3. Tales Of The Vampires
2. Fray
1. The Astonishing X-Men


Top 5 Firefly Episodes
5. "Our Mrs. Reynolds"
4. "Objects In Space"
3. "War Stories"
2. "Out Of Gas"
1. "Ariel"


Top 5 Angel Episodes
5. "Five By Five"
4. "Home"
3. "Reunion"
2. "Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been"
1. "Not Fade Away"


Top 5 Buffy Episodes
5. "Chosen"
4. "Becoming Part Two"
3. "Hush"
2. "Restless"
1. "The Body"

See you next week!

Daniel Erenberg (AKA: Dan)(AKA: Nighthawk) is fairly happy with the life he lives in his house in the Yorkshire section of Lynbrook, New York. He's got a band called The Doldrums which he alternately thinks are brilliant and awful. He writes almost as often as he watches television, which any reader of his Slayage column knows is saying a lot. Beautiful girls and other types of Buffy fans can reach him at
Latest Comments

These lists are wicked. You need to do more; (way to have an 8 month X-mas holiday :P ).
I'm so psyched that Slayage is back! I never gave up hope!
Love the lists too. I agree with most things except.....

Character Deaths (Angel). I know that Cordelia was more of a main character than Darla, and her death was such a great twist, but when you think about it, Cordy had been dead for a year. Darla's death was just as "twist"-y, and a lot more dramatic. I think that in her final moments, you see something really change (even temporarily) within her, and although you hear of repenting on the deathbed blah blah blah...ok I'm going to stop trying to make this sound intelligent SHE FRIGGIN STAKED HERSELF! Thats so awsome, and then as her ashes crumble, she leaves behind her human baby. It doesn't get much more awsome than that.

Also, Not Fade Away was a great ep, but there were better Angel episodes.

Last but not least, "We are as Gods" ranks so much higher on the dream sequences list.

Anywho, hope for more updates soon! Everyone seems to be giving up on the Buffyverse:( It's sad to see.

Posted by: Aquatic Butterfly on October 15, 2005 01:33 AM

There was a decided display both of the "flash" and the "ring," as Lennox looked at the suddenly subdued young lady, and, quite satisfied with his retaliation, gave the order -- "Forward, march!" which brought them to the garden-gate breathless, but better friends than before.

Posted by: Jeff on October 13, 2005 09:29 PM

"Once More With Feeling" was number 6. I swear.

New article in a day or two.


Posted by: Daniel Erenberg on September 21, 2005 09:15 AM

Top 5 Dance Sequence (All Joss Shows) -- what about Numfar, Lorne's brother??? It had me on the floor, especially after I remembered who was playing him!

And welcome back Daniel!

Posted by: linda on September 20, 2005 12:24 AM

Great lists! Glad to see some updates on the site, but how could "Once More, With Feeling" not be in your top 5 list of Buffy episodes.

Posted by: Trey on September 15, 2005 07:22 PM
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